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But in Norway or Sweden, people have faith in the state, they have faith that the state functions. How do rebuild that faith - or perhaps build it in the first place. It's easy to say you want to end corruption, but how do you actually change that political culture...
More checks and balances. Our budget is going to be under the scrutiny of the parliament, but also an independent body. More meritocracy in the public service. We now have a system where people will be chosen only on a meritocratic basis, not a clientelistic basis. This is slowly changing...
Also, decentralizing this huge central government to regional and local government so that services are provided at a local level, but decisions are also made a local level, which makes it more accountable. When I was Minister of Education, for example, I would sign the leave of absence of the...
Some people are going to resist giving up that power. I imagine people even in your own party. Are you willing to take those people on? Are you willing to root out corruption within your own party? I said the first thing we have to do is change ourselves. We...
Talking to people on the streets, one thing I heard again and again is that people want to see somebody punished for corruption and tax evasion. What is your response to that? Will people see punishment? I get that all the time. This is the sense that I was telling...