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...come back. Of course, those are short-term changes. We have to get down to the deeper changes, which we're already doing. So that's this phase. Now getting beyond this immediate crisis - getting a breathing space to actually get down to the deeper - and I would say even more creative changes, in our society. (See TIME's Greece covers...
...deal with this? In fact, I think you'll see in these crises two different types of political responses. One, which I would say is a more polarizing and more populist and even scapegoating kind of leadership role. And one which says, no, lets get down to the real issues, lets work together, lets be more collective in our response. Let's be more democratic in our response...
...dictatorship in Greece. He was beaten up or tortured and then left. And then again during the dictatorship, all of us left Greece. That gives me a sense, when you go through a crisis, that I'm not the only one. There are generations that have been through even worse situations. And they've been able to survive and continue believing in their goals and in their dreams...
...social system survives. We have to become competitive. Greece also has both negatives, but also a positive on this because our social system is not well organized, there's a lot of waste. So in cutting down the waste, I think we can modernize it and make it even more efficient as far as costs. And this is where I think we can move ahead. There are countries that have been able to maintain a social welfare system, and see that as part and parcel of being competitive. That is the Nordic countries, or the Scandinavian countries, where they have...
Some people are going to resist giving up that power. I imagine people even in your own party. Are you willing to take those people on? Are you willing to root out corruption within your own party? I said the first thing we have to do is change ourselves. We have to be the example, if you like, and lead by example in many ways. And this is what I did when I took on the party, took the leadership of the party. I said okay, the first thing we have to do is change. As a matter of fact...