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...Well, in fact, speaking of de Tocqueville, there was that Putnam study from a few years ago about bowling alone. I remember somebody rebutted that by saying, people aren't bowling alone, they're playing soccer in groups - you're not looking at the right kind of examples...
Both in terms of volunteerism and this idea of kind of civic consumerism, our polls show that there has been a - for lack of a better term, kind of Obama effect - that includes both of you - and that in some ways you started talking about, early on, this very American idea of doing well by doing good: green industry, the idea that principles and progress are not mutually exclusive. In some way, you've both been an endorsement of this and a beneficiary of it. The President: Our campaign was an example...
...Right. So how - talk about that a little bit - I mean, how you are both kind of cause and effect of this, and you're also in some ways the great champion of it, of these ideas and values that are changing the way civic society works. The President: Well, look, I think our campaign was an expression of people wanting to be engaged and involved in different ways. They didn't want to just be passive consumers of political television ads. They wanted to have their voices heard. They wanted to interact with their membership - or with their neighbor...
...fact, in the poll - speaking of millennials - about a third of Americans - you know, I have to think of some interesting names for them - "the Responsibles" basically say that they've changed their lives and they've made essentially a kind of new social contract. They're buying things that are greener; they're buying things that have a sense of social responsibility. And this group is about 70 or 80 million Americans. They're younger, they're better educated, they're more diverse...
...some ways they're a vanguard of this - of what Americans will be like 10, 20 or 30 years from now. I wonder if you could talk about this idea of is there kind of a new social contract that this group of Americans or Americans as a whole are embracing. The President: Well, I think this is a positive thing, and it speaks to something we've tried to express during the campaign - Washington hasn't quite caught up to it yet - and that is that a traditional argument was between those who thought government could do everything...