Word: showing
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Dates: during 1980-1989
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...When you started this show, you were sort of TV's avant-garde, and now you're almost the king of the mountain. You're the guy people are trying to knock off, or copy. Does that make you uncomfortable...
...sure we were ever avant-garde. I think it's true that in the early days we felt like we had to establish ourselves as being different, so maybe it was easier for us to do odd things and take more chances. I think the grind of doing a show every night makes you more inclined to say "Well, we did that once before, we can do it again." A certain kind of inertia takes over. But I think what has come over the years is a more consistent spirit. We have more confidence now in what we do. Whereas...
...What things on the show really make you laugh...
...able to do something that gets a huge laugh. I like it sometimes when things just don't work, and you're overwhelmed with this hopeless, giddy attitude. I liked a couple of months ago when, for no reason, we just made waffles, as an adjunct activity to the show. I liked having a show and then, every few minutes, seeing if the waffles were done. I don't know why exactly. When somebody came up with the idea -- "Well, we could make waffles" -- you thought, "Why would we make waffles?" But it's the Why-would-we-make-waffles...
...cases like that, you seem to be parodying the talk show itself: This is how mundane we can get. We can make waffles, and people will think it's entertainment. Are you satirizing...