Word: ullmann
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...ULLMANN: Yes. The last thing he did was Ghosts by Henrik Ibsen, three or four years ago. Then he said "this is the last." And when he did this film, which was a surprise for everybody, he said "This is the last I do," in terms of script and film. And now I know he really means...
...ULLMANN: Yes, but kind of fun scenes. And he loved that. And somewhat later he said "You know, I am writing something about Marianne and Johan." And, oh God, he was writing. Then he said, "I want to direct it with her [Ullmann]. The comedy is coming." Of course, it was no comedy; it was somewhat the opposite...
...ULLMANN:I feel the reason that Ingmar used Johan and Marianne was not to go back to their story. It was to use people that were known, so that he did not have to introduce them, and then to make something new, which had to do with Johan's relations: the grandchild, the son and the wife's death. And Marianne is the stranger who wandered into it. Maybe she is the only one who was somewhat changed by it, by seeing and observing...
...ULLMANN: I think so too, because Marianne in Scenes from a Marriage is a kind of sane and normal woman. And I think she still is: an ordinary, nice woman who sees and can be trusted on what she sees. She is like a Greek chorus...
...ULLMANN: I know. It is such a sad story for them. It is a love story, but the love story Johan describes is how they all can love somebody, but only somebody who is dead. And that, of course, is an easy way to love, because the dead have no needs...