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...understand that you've thought a lot and studied a lot, and that a few weeks ago, in fact, even Nancy-Ann [DeParle, the White House health czar] brought you a memo as to sort of just how LBJ pulled this off - not just making the case for it publicly, but really making the gears of government run. What of that experience speaks to this experience? Well, as you point out, the last time we did something of this magnitude was 1965. And the circumstances in some cases were similar, in some cases were profoundly different. Obviously LBJ had just...
...both circumstances, as President, you have to help make - help to make the case publicly, but then you also have to work through a wide range of divergent interests - geographical, ideological - and that involves combining firmness of purpose with some flexibility to get the job done. Whether we've struck that right balance we'll find out in the next couple of months...
Well, of all the big decisions that you've made strategically, one of the most important was really to lay out the broad principles and let Congress figure out how to get there. Could you talk to me a little bit about how and when you made that decision, and why you decided - because there are a lot of people right now on Capitol Hill who are saying, we need more from him; he's got to tell us what - where his bright red lines are on this. The truth is we've actually, I think, provided more guidance than...
...knew we were going to have a third left. We've put forward what I continue to believe is the most sensible way of financing that final one-third, and that is simply to lower the deductions, the itemized deductions that wealthy individuals can take. That would have covered...
...second area where we still haven't arrived at agreement had to do with the public option, and we've already started to discuss that. There is just a - not only an ideological suspicion of the public option on the part of many Republicans, but many of them also saw it as an opportunity to try to resurrect the old scare tactic of government-run health care, socialized medicine, eliminating your ability to choose your own doctor. That was going to exist regardless of whatever tactics we employed...